Web designers, IT people... can you put a price on this?
This guy is building me a engine in a bartering deal. He says I haven't done enough. Can someone give me a ball park average of what this would cost if someone were to to pay me a $$$ amount. He seems to think everything I do is worthless, and never enough. Now I'm in school and tried to end it because of lack of time, he won't let me go because like I said, it's not enough. He's not even done with my engine. So I can't walk. 1.Web site was bartered to me to “clean up” his site. 2.His site was unusable, so I just created a new web site. 3.Designed new logo 4.Designed background art 5.New logo was used for new marketing purposes on banners ect… 6.Added 2000+ pictures on web site, each with own background 7.Added Video 8.Added Flash 9.Added password area (That he now requested to take down) 10.Finished a SECOND web site that he requested, “www.Petesporting.com” admittedly much simpler design. 11. Installed and figured out program for his camera 12.Scanners where not networked properly, had to fix the network 13.Install IP address for IPhone 14.Sweep Shop/help out guys in shop while ask. 15.Gas $25.00 a week to get there and back one day a week to work on my own engine with "their" expertise looking over me. 16. Gave him $1200.00 for parts www.wetechauto.com www.petesporting.com Thanks, I have to give this guy some kind of value for this. I cant just call up some IT guy and ask him all this. I don't think?
Public Comments
- I wouldn't have done all that for less than $5000. Item 6 alone is worth a lot of $$/hour. Stats not up to date... Current ww averages (freelancers): - static sites 10-15$/page, max 400$ - small semi dynamic site, from 500$ - small e-commerce, from 900$ - interactive sites (AJAX+), from 1200$ - social networks, from 1500$ - applications, from 3000$ - SERIOUS websites, from 10000$ - game sites, from 25,000$ Ron
- I'd say you outdid yourself, time to call it quits I think. How many hours did you spend on his stuff? Did you keep track? If I were in your shoes, I would figure out the total hours spent, and charge $30 - 40 per hour (or depending on my mood, find out how much he charges per hour and charge that. $30 per hour is a bit on the low side.) You could get really nitpicky about it too. Pick your poison from Ron's list for web design only. Twice, since you did two websites. 3,4,5: $750 6: $30 per hour 7,8,9: $30 per hour (with a one hour minimum) with an additional $30 per hour for removal of the script. 11,12,13: $80 per hour (with a one hour minimum) 14: $10 per hour. How much time did you spend for "tech support" or advice? Charge for that too. But, reality check here - you're most likely screwed. Let it be a lesson to you for the future. Never offer your services without drawing up a contract/document with a list of the services you'll be doing, and what you would charge under normal circumstances. Do not stray from the document outline without at least partial payment for anything not listed up front. Make sure you document hours spent as well.
- People don't realize how much effort is required to do this stuff. (not to mention, technical, head-work) We (IT people) are largely to blame for this, I see freelancers under-value themselves all the time. Wish there were some kind of union of freelancers where everyone agreed to charge an hourly rate. Most of the work I've done at a "fixed quote" has ended up as a disaster, they tack more stuff on or, factors we don't consider creep up and if you bid what it's likely to cost (which you really *can't* know in advance, especially with wacky servers..) you loose the job. An HONEST hourly rate fixes these problems nicely and builds a better working relationship with the client.
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