Would the founding fathers be ashamed of our country today?
some of the founding fathers of our country like george washington, thomas jefferson, and alexander hamilton preached that this country should be a free market, capitalist country that follows the constititution and should have a non intervention foreign policy. today is the OPPOSITE of that. 1. George Washington(foreign policy)- george washington was probably the biggest supporter of a non-intervention foreign policy. while jefferson and hamilton were debating to support britain or france, washington remained neutral and chose NOT to intervene. As he left office he read his farewell address(which is great) and he mostly said that the interests and conflicts in the rest of the world does not concern the interests of the U.S. he warned against getting involved in other country's affairs and against alliances. and hes right because alliances can destroy a nation's soverignty and he said that the U.S. can remain neutral because "our greatest ally is the atlantic ocean". Today we are in NATO, UN, we have bases in germany, japan, and south korea, and are policies in the mid east are the wrong policies. we should be going after terrorists and destroying terror NOT nation building and policing the world like we are doing. Washington would not like this at all. 2.Thomas Jefferson(power of the feds) ik that jefferson may have gone beyond his own power during his presidency but he was all about for most of his life folllowing the constitution and leaving many rights to the states. The feds should only have the power for trading, tarriffs, own currency, war, treaties, and dispute between states. today the feds have control over income tax(IRS is stupid and the feds should be funding on budget cuts, excise taxes, and tarrifs), EDUCATION, and even abortion and potentially gay marriage. The feds cant go beyond their power like this! 3. Alexander Hamilton(economy) when hamilton was the first treasury secetary, he preached and had set up a capitalist, free market economy where the people run it(especially the wealthy), competition is strong, and the upper class is on top of all this by competing with each other for profit and revenue and creating jobs for poeple. TODAY, we have a nearly socialist economy where the governement is starting to own businesses and are getting involved in the market world where their actions are decreasing competition. sharing wealth, tax burden on wealth,Bailout plan and potential healthcare plan are prime examples. DO you agree?? i know that the world has changed but our greatest allies are the oceans. if we better secure countries then its more possible to have a non intervention foreign policy and we dont have to have alliances. alliances just prove to haunt you. also capitalism is the best type of system and socialism is a system that the U.S. is NOT meant to have and its an unfair system that doesnt work. also y do the feds have to have so much power??? listen to ron paul, he knows his stuff feds shouldnt have control over education, its a state issue also providing healthcare will decrease the competition for healthcare in the market and whenever you have a monopoly of something which is what the governement providing healthcare is, then thats not good
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- I don't think they'd be so much ashamed as both amazed and perplexed by not only the US but also the politics of the world as a whole. Things have changed a great deal since their time. Frankly, I think they'd be proud of what we've managed to achieve out of their humble effort of cobbling together a new system of government. Bear in mind that when they first set things in motion they weren't any more convinced it would all work out in the end than we are now. They came up with a plan (arguing all the way) and crossed their fingers. I think on reflection of our current state of affairs that they would come to the pleased conclusion that the US was still seeking out the best form of government for her people, based on their needs and desires.
- Ya, like I care what a bunch of slave owners think.
- A lot has changed... A purely Capitalist system will fail... A system that is capitalist by nature but with a socialist backdrop is very very successful.
- No. Their world was prehistoric compared to the world today. If they could live forever, they would be proud that as the country has grown some 36 times in population and probably that much geographically, that we have grown and adapted to the times.
- They understood that this could happen and they knew that a great danger existed both at the Federal level of power grabbing and at the people level of losing the 2 "great supports" of religion and morality. They warned us of both and we should be ashamed to have lost so great a system that made us the richest and greatest nation in the world. As all these changes are made and we sink deeper and deeper into debt both economically and socially time will show that the changes will never produce the greatness we once had. Excuses will flow unending but results will not lie.
- LET ME BE UH CLEAR
- I agree free markets is the best system. But when your founding fathers went for it, it was yet in a nascent stage. So you no doubt have to add the learnings of the last two centuries. Socialism does not work but if you have a democracy (which you did not when your nation was founded - only land holding white males were allowed to vote), people just want to demand money be just given to them and govt by the people does what the people demand. Whoever cares about long term. Can always blame it on someone. Having said that, I personally feel basic healthcare should be provided to all citizens - but not the state of the art stuff most people demand- as who'll pay for it? I also think free basic education should be provided to all children and higher education should be made more accessible. These are investments a nation makes in its own future.
- well is funny you ask that because just today I say to my wife if the founding fathers can see what America become they probably call for a Revolution
- Of course they would be ashamed. We've sold our country to the Chinese and Arabs. We've invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, two countries we have no real interests in. We've bankrupted the country and sent our jobs overseas to third world countries - thank Walmart for that.
- yes
- THEY WOULD BE SHOCKED AND ASHAMED
- I think the "founding fathers" would be surprised that black men, and women of any color have the right to vote (women only got the vote in the early 1900s, by the way!). I really, really wish people would stop viewing health care as a commodity and profit-making BUSINESS. There is nothing communist or socialist about guaranteeing all your citizens good, affordable, available, comprehensive health care. No one -- NO one -- should be forced to suffer or die because they cannot afford the necessary treatment. No one should have to sell the family home or go bankrupt to cover medical costs. Canada, France, Belgium, The United Kingdom -- most of western Europe, in fact -- all provide forms of universal health care which, while not perfect (what is?) are far, far better (and a lot less expensive) than what currently must be privately purchased in the U.S. And, the last time I looked, education WAS a state issue.
- I think they would be ashamed at the American people for electing these DOLTS and not doing anything to stop them!
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